Book to read: Raising Chickens

03/01/2009 - 22:25
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Hello Homesteaders!

Has any one read Gail Damerow's Raising Chickens? 

After reading her treatise on chickens, I decided to order 27 Buff Orpingtons.  You could not learn enough on your own in ten years what this book can teach you.  The author is widely respected in the poultry arena.  She is also the editor of a poultry publication, and writes for Backyard Poultry magazine.  The Orpingtons are a dual purpose bird (meat and eggs).  Tomorrow, we go to the post office to pick them up. 

I've built a brooder pen and coop.  I believe  the chickens will come in handy.  Now that we are completely debt free, I can spend time doing the things that matter for family.  Poor economic times and bad food management led me to the decision to raise chickens.  Since we are going 100% organic, I'm going to also use them in the production of my pastas. 

This will also be a great learning experiece for my son.  We are home schooling our child.  He is very excited.  He wants to go to the post office to pick up the birds.  He has helped build, stain, and set up their living quarters.  He is waiting for the first egg to drop.

Has anyone else decided to raise chickens?

Tom

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03/01/2009 - 23:12
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TY Tom

Yes Tom, I been kicking it around. The book you listed is on my list. They sound like the perfect chickens to raise. My biggest concern is cost versus return. The book probably covers that yes?

Your son must be excited..thats cool.

Kola



03/01/2009 - 23:46
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cost v. return

I don't think you have to worry there. Each bird cost $2.13. When they mature, you can get an egg a day or every other day. That adds up. I'm using all organic feed, and it is pricey. With medicated (oil of oregano) feed, you should not have the problems of commercial feed. Protien levels should be 22% for starters. Wal Mart feed runs 18%. These differences add up. Lower protein means more antibiotics. High protein for starter chicks will mean less or no antibiotics.

I would rather a bird/egg without antibiotic residue. This will keep you healthier longer as well.

Tom
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03/02/2009 - 01:26
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Your story bring back memories of Greece

When my dad was staytioned in Grece we had a house in the mountians that over look the olymic stadium in the late 80s. Are land lord lived above us and had chickens he ask me look over them feed them. As soon he left he had some other wild birds that were small.
but as soon he left some dam wild cat went out on a kill to eat one the birds but the chickens were the early warning system there loud when danger out there.
I miss the sound of chicken tell you get the f up hahah
I think about it but eggs are cheep at coscos but meat well that another story. How could i protect them agians wild life everthing out here try kil them.
Bear, Dogs Fox cats and what else hawks.
I have make supper pen to no get in there

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03/02/2009 - 12:00
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I am raising chickens and

I am raising chickens and rabbits. It adds work to my day but it is work I enjoy. Money is not the reason that I do it tough because frankly it is not cheap. What I am looking for is quality.



03/02/2009 - 13:51
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Tom & Pietru- you lucky dogs

When I get to the point you are at I hope to have chickens. My wife’s mom and dad always had anywhere from 30 to 100 hens along with 3 or 4 roosters. They swore fertilized eggs tasted much better and everyone in the county must have thought so too. People would drive an extra 10 miles just to get eggs from them. Another benefit to roosters is that they seemed to keep the hens very happy, and happy hens means lots of eggs.

Every so often we had to clip wings and fix holes in the chicken yard to keep them from flying the coop and keep predators out, and we'd change the straw in the nests whenever they got thick with droppings, (great fertilizer but powerful stuff. A little goes a long ways.)

The every day chores of feeding, watering and picking eggs didn't take that long. I’ll have to add that book to my collection so I'll be ready when the time comes.

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03/03/2009 - 00:30
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safe chickens

Mother Earth News magazine has some great ideas for keeping chickens. You can build a fully enclosed chicken coop which is surrounded top and sides with wire. You build the frame to incorporate some type of wheel set- up and you can move the entire coop very easily to different spots on the ground. You leave it in one spot and let them graze and then maybe in a week or so move it to another spot. No worries about critters getting at your egglaying feathered friends.

The only down side IMO is damn roosters. Those SOB's never shut up. They crow in the morning, at night and any old time and they are loud. I wonder if you could muzzle those little beaks? :)

Tom, it sounds as if chickens are well worth the investment and I agree with you with going organic. I get farm eggs out here and can't even eat a store egg anymore.

some "linkies" (as Klapton would say)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Sustainable-Farming/2007-09-01/Easy-Backyard-Chicken-Coops.aspx

I can't find the link about the movable coop. It is made of wood and has small wheels on it. Its pretty slick .Its in one of my mags at home so I will look for it tonight.

Kola



03/02/2009 - 19:32
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my grandma/chickens

My grandma let her chickens out during the day. At night she would shut the outside coop up-it had a outside area as well but she would let the chickens go to do what they wanted during the day and then the chickens would go back in the coop at dusk she would lock them up in the indoor coop because of possible predators. The chickens were white and I never knew what breed they were but she could cook- be careful around women when you complement someone else's cooking!

The best food I ever ate was there and the venison was better than beef, she would chicken fry it. Those chickens were mighty good eating too.

Myself-I might give it a try to see if there worth the hassle-I like to know my food is hormone free and all the other garbage they inject these chickens and cows with.

 

 

 

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03/02/2009 - 18:00
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the rolling chicken coop

I saw what Kola was talking about on a "green homes" remodeling show. It is simply constructed. It is a long "A" frame cage, with a ridge pole extending to the outside of the cage. The part of the ridge pole extending outside the cage is what you lift the coop up with for moving. The wooden coop part is on opposite end of the coop as the ridge pole lifting handle. At the furthest end of the coop is where you put the wheels. Everything except the coop area is covered in chicken wire. The object is to let the chickens eat the grass and bugs through the bottom of the coop. After a period of time the coop is moved to fresh pasture, and the chickens have left the former grazing area, full fertilized. It has to be small enough to be moveable, usually around 15 feet long with the coop formed on a 3, 4, or 5 foot triangle frame. It also isn't for a large number of chickens. Hope this make sense.



03/02/2009 - 18:14
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chicken coop info

http://www.essortment.com/all/chickenshousec_rmhl.htm

that was off Kola's mother earth link- lots of good info on that one about size of coop per chicken etc.

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03/02/2009 - 19:56
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Check this site out

www.backyardchickens.com
Just about everything you could ever want to know about chickens on the forums there. I have had chickens for over a year now. In a small scale operation for family eggs and meat it is more expensive to do it. The only way it is cheaper is if you can sell your excess eggs and meat to make your own free (if you don't count your own time). It is worth it to me, just so I know what is in my food.
Tom



03/03/2009 - 00:22
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Check this one out

http://www.organicgardening.com/pdf/coop_plans.pdf

It comes with a parts list.

edkemper

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03/04/2009 - 02:37
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wow

Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and comment on the chickens. It seems to me almost everyone I speak to has a chicken memory. Isn't it a wonder that a whole generation has lost out on raising such a simple bird for their own table. Now, we are amazed someone has chickens.

I am amazed at how big the chickens grew in one day.  I do not think they would fit back in the box they came from.  By the end of today, I could see feathers growing from the wings.  In four weeks, they should be ready for the outdoors.  Here is a picture of what they look like: http://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/product/buff_orpingtons.html

I have a lot of room to let the chickens roam.  I fenced in an entire acre of land for fruit trees.  I'll let them do their business to encrich the soil.  I do not want to lug around a coup.  It sounds real fun, until you have to do it in hot/wet weather.

I do hope more people look into being as self sufficient as possible. 

Tom

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03/05/2009 - 18:42
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Thanks

edkemper wrote:
http://www.organicgardening.com/pdf/coop_plans.pdf

It comes with a parts list.

edkemper


Thanks for the plans....I just saw this over the weekend and wanted to build one....

-Chris