With the space they have to work with, it's very inspiring. I hope to grow my own independence as well, starting off small and not getting over my head, and see where it leads.

One thing that isn't covered in there case, (though roughly alluded to) was meat. In that urban environment, I doubt one would be allowed livestock. But I did recently talk to someone who does things on an intelligent level. For a few hundred bucks, each year this person goes in with three others, and purchases a local farmer's (all naturally raised) cow for slaughter. It all goes into a freezer and carries them through the entire year. Way cheaper than the supermarket and you know where it came from and what you're getting. (he said he can go over and see the farmer's operation any time) To top it all off, you're supporting the local economy.

So, even if you can't raise your own livestock, you can often come to an arrangement with someone locally who does. I have two homes within a few houses of me who sell fresh chickens and eggs. And anyone telling you that you're taking a risk buying chickens & eggs from some local farm, versus buying supermarket that gets theirs from a govt "regulated" chicken farm, well that's a load of bunk. Does anyone believe some raising a couple dozen yard chickens is riskier that some corporation raising thousands of chickens in concentrated chicken houses?

Quiz: Where would you expect disease to be most likely to occur?

For a while now in the US, big corp has be lobbying big gov't to implement microchipping of all livestock, regardless of size or purpose. They have been trying to pass this as law under the guise that it will promote safer food for everyone by allowing the gov't to know the whereabouts of all animals. The law would require you to report anytime an animal leaves your property.
If this passes into law, likely more and more small livestock growers will abandon the practice and your only choice will be Big Ag grown garbage.

This is something that may also become reality in Canada, I actually know a person who has been working on new technology for the process (how do I tell him he's an idiot without hurting his feelings).

There may be a black market pretty soon for unregulated meat.

Sigh... anyone know a small island I can move to?

Yes Larry, Big Gov is busting the Amish people in PA as well!

You are prolly right about goat cheese and milk and BTW its delicious. There are different forms of vegetarians, ovo, lacto and then strict vegans but I love my meats.
I was a strict vegan for almost 3 years (battling cancer). I refused chemo and radiation but I desperately needed 3 surgeries and underwent that nightmare. Afterwards, I still refused the chemo and rads and went to Mexico and did The Gerson Therapy Program which is outlawed in the US. I have been in remission for almost 5 years. Yea!

And now I can enjoy meat and dairy!

Kola

I guess you're familiar with this site?

http://www.nonais.org/

A small island? Ever look into one of the 7,000 Phillippine islands?

Kola, thanks for the video, it showed one of the 3 major's people need to survive. If you own your land and was capable of paying the tax man every year, what else would you truly need, medicine is a must too.

1. Shelter
2. Food
3. Water

Here's the other 3 major's

1. Guns
2. ammo
3. tv LOL :-)

The Meatrix...... take the blue pill!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEkc70ztOrc

Ohhhh, I shouldn't have taken the Red Pill.
I just found out all that expensive French Escargot is really just PNW banana slugs. The Helix Snail Shells are just for show.....

Tell the people...Tell the people...escargot is slugs!!!!Arrrgh....

-A. Heston

Oh man, I hadn't seen the Meatrix in a long time, so I watched it again for fun...along with Meatrix II and Meatrix II 1/2...then a bunch more posted by Free Range Studios. You Star Wars fans really have to see "Store Wars"...Then I remembered one of my favorite off-the-wall caller request songs from a local radio station a few years ago, "Cows with Guns."

Enjoy! And may the Farm be with you!

Louanne

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and then we have the utimate peep show:

You are killing me, love the detail too. I didn't see this room in your model.............. :-)