I was wondering if anyone has come up with any good ideas on security for thier remote cabin's,my place is up in the middle of no where my nearest neighbor is 7 miles away. I have two shipping containers with alot of stuff and I'm getting ready to build so there will be more stuff up there to worry about
Yea, we got cameras at work
Yea, we got cameras at work that are tied into the company's intranet. (which could also be tied to an internet connection instead) The DVR is assigned an IP address, and if I VPN into the network, I can easy access the cameras and recordings. I use it regularly in the winter, to check if I need to head in to plow the lots.
Now, back to btwall's idea. There are wireless photo beam alert systems available, which trigger a warning device in the home. (just Google "driveway alert") It wouldn't take much more effort to tie one into a home alarm system and central monitoring. (or possibly directly to your phone via the dialer)
Make it so it takes a
Make it so it takes a picture or video clip of the vehicle and sends it to you. I've thought of this for some time... I think there are some game cameras or other devices out there that will do it.
My plans are for a live
My plans are for a live webcam set up to watch my property..whether I am home or away.
Program it with notification alarms.
Get a cellphone with internet access.
Monitor your land 24/7..either by monitors in your home (or when away) though mobile internet.
There are tons of companies, heres just one:
http://iwatchlive.com/
Kola
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Game Cameras
Us Hunters use scouting or game cameras that are IR activated... Newer ones have no flash can also take video... properly placed and angled, one should be able to ensure getting the plate numbers... Get two rechargeable batteries and two dig cards... Set up overlooking a locked gate should ensure the photos you want...
(not sure if its right for you, but I'll throw it out there for you to decide...) I'd set up a shooting range with lots of shotgun shells and some old targets (not the circles, but the bad guy ones...a manequin or two if you can find em...) It makes people think twice about if its worth the risk if-n they know the owner IS PREPARED TO DEFEND HIS PROPERTY!!! I'd place it just past a locked gate that has some good Constitution signs... Find a skeet range/shooting range if you don't shoot... I'm sure you could get some old shotguns hulls and maybe some old targets... LOTS OF SHELLS, scatterred in the road with the targets 15-25 yds away would work well... Make it visible enough that anyone thinking of cutting the locks or climbing over would see it...
Deterance is 90% of the game in most cases...
New invention
I thought it would be cool to have a motion sensor or laser that ran across the driveway that when tripped would call your cell phone. Place it high enough so that dogs and other small mammals wouldn't trip it but a person or vehicle would. I looked on the internet for such an item but couldn't find anything. If you got a call you could either go directly there, call a neighbor to see if they'll go take a look or call the sherriff. Battery or solar operated would be best and it would have to be able to dial a cell phone so would likely have a modified cell phone built in.
Purchased Land-survey done and draftsman is working on modifications to stock plans.
Motion sensor
I have a motion sensor inside my house that is programmable for body mass so my four dogs, who range from 50 to 70 pounds, don't set it off. I think it sees heat.
dogs in heat sensor?
Frances, cool..so when your dogs are in heat, the beeper goes off?
...and the boys come-a-runnin'?
heehee,
Kola
Bark Bark!!
...and the boys come-a-runnin'?
heehee,
Kola
Mmmmm, Kola while trying to think of a funny retort to your comment, I starting wondering why I even have a motion sensor when I have a doberman, two pitbulls and a really vocal bearded collie in the house. Anybody who tries to break into my house would have to be retarded!
Frances
BARK BARK BANG
A few years ago, I got an urgent call, at work, from my then 14 year old daughter who was at home alone. Seems that someone had tried to break into our house. When he couldn't get in through the front door he went around to the sliding glass doors, apparently intending to break the glass. Well, he changed his mind when he looked in and saw two dobermans, a shepard and my daughter, who was armed with the shotgun I gave her for Christmas. He beat feet out of there and she called me after locking herself in her room with all the dogs, her .410 and my Springfield 1911, both of which she knew how to use. Aint redneck girls great?
JD
JD
That's awesome.
A good friend of ours has instructed us in basic gun safety. He was very thorough. Husband and I are thinking of getting a shotgun to have with us.
Wish I had learned to use one when I was 12 or so.....
2 cents
Guns are great. But be
Guns are great. But be careful.
Don't buy one and stick it in the closet until needed. Practice, practice, practice. It's fun too.
Practice doesn't make perfect. It makes safe
I couldn't agree more, Simple Mind. My daughter and I had the best time shooting together. She would bug me almost every weekend to go shooting. After the aforementioned (sp) incident, I made sure she understood that the more proper course of action would have been:
1. Call 911 while arming herself.
2. Retreat to the most defensible position in the house (with weapons and dogs).
3. Stay there until the threat passed or the cops showed up.
Fortunately we have cops who live nearby and, in our city, they probably wouldn't have arrested me for allowing my 14 year-old access to firearms.
She'll be 21 in a year and a half. She'll then be able to obtain a concealed carry permit in Virginia. I plan to pay for a concealed carry and defensive shooting course as a birthday gift. I never want my little girl to be defensless against those who would do her harm.
JD
For Everything else
Handgun: 450 bucks
Concealed Carry Permit: 150 bucks
Defensive Handgun Course: 150 bucks
Confidence that my wife can protect herself and my kids: Priceless
I know a little corny but accurate.
Yikes! $150 for a CCP?
Yikes! $150 for a CCP? Here in PA, it's as little as $25, and no course is required. Not to say it's not a good idea, but I'm glad it isn't law. We got enough of those. (oddly though, a course IS required to get a hunting license)
Anyhow, nothing deters an intruder faster than the sound of racking a pump shotgun. (loaded or not)
Cheap
Yeah it was $150, I think the actual permit was only like $30 and the rest is for the background check, not sure where that is in the constitution but I would have paid twice as much if it were required. Of course I am waiting for the day when we need a permit to carry a knife :-( The class wasn't required but it was worth it because now she is more comfortable with the weapon, now I am trying to get her into some more advanced courses.
As far as the shotgun goes, the 12 gauge is my wife's favorite, especially the pump action.
Me and my Bennelli (pardners...)
Last year, my daughter and I camped on the land to do a little clean up, make a little driveway in. For weeks and weeks before we left I was horribly anxious about being out there all alone (okay, the dogs were with us but I still was scared...). So I took the plunge and bought a Bennelli 20 guage shotgun for my own peace of mind. I was thinking, "Just try to get near this tent..." After all, not being there all the time, I didn't know if there was anyone who was used to coming around there, maybe poaching deer, wood or fishing in the pond. In Florida, the guys at the gun store were GREAT. The sheriff's department in NY was a little confused about whether I was allowed to bring in a long gun from out of state so I called the capital office and was assured I could. But I had never fired a shotgun. The only gun I ever fired was an M-16. The way I remember it, the M-16 was easy to shoot but harder to load. The Bennelli is easy to load, harder to fire. Florida has a three day waiting period for the pick up after purchase (huh, like I could cool off in only three days...) and I couldn't wait to get it!
I know, I know....the Bennelli is a WOP. (That's "With Out Pistol".) But I'm Sicilian and if there's one thing a Sicilian knows, it's a good gun.
Frances
True
One of the most important things I've learned so far is that the weapon to have is one you are capable of using. If you are unwilling or unable to use it properly, then it's as if you did not have it at all (or worse).
2 cents
Defense
Yep. The first two rules of any weapon and especially firearms is:
1. Never draw a weapon that you don't intend to use.
2. Never brandish or point a weapon at anything or anyone that you don't intend to destroy.
There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. Accidental implies that no one was at fault. I prefer the term "negligent discharge". I've never heard of anyone getting shot unintentionally if the shooter was adhering to rules #1 & 2.
You're also correct about willingness to use a weapon. A thorough understanding of the rules of deadly force is imperitive for anyone considering a firearm for defense. If there is any doubt in your mind that deadly force is necessary in an engagement, it probably isn't. Especially if the situation can be diffused by any lesser means (retreat, etc). You have to be sure and willing. (Sorry. Twenty two years of USN small arms training showing through)
As John Wayne said, in The Shootist: "It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts. It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger...And I won't."
JD
I won't hesitate
I've drawn a bead on two sub-human animals in my life. They each made hasty retreats. I will not fall victim to violent crime. Had I not had a weapon, the outcome may well have been different. I carry at all times. I even carry a second concealed gun. At your remote location, always be prepared. You may meet a wild animal, snake, or worse yet, a true sub-human animal.
Tom
nobleknight
class 01-15-05
I agree having the fire arm
I agree having the fire arm is only about 40% of the solution, being able to use it and be comfortable with the weapon (not just knowing which end is the dangerous one) is just as if not more important.
You said it!
Anybody who tries to break into my house would have to be retarded!
Frances
Almost every time you read about a break-in, it is about some dumb _ss. They have to be on the edge of retardation.
I have a neighbor that has over-grazed his property. His cattle patrol my fence line. They look for any entry point. So, as dumb as he is, he cuts the fence for them. I asked him about it. He told me elk do that. Their hooves are real sharp. The camera idea seems real neat. I've invested thousands in keeping _ssholes/cattle fenced out. I keep documenting every event. If I ever take him to court, the evidence is recorded. The pictures would be icing on the cake.
Tom
nobleknight
class 01-15-05
nobleknight, I dont know the law for your state, but
in WV, it actually legal to shoot animals that trespass, you can also legally corral them and keep them until restitution is paid for damages, they are considered property. I'm not suggesting shooting cows for sport, (not much of a sport) but if its a habitual thing that is getting out of control, maybe put one in your freezer and see if the "elk" dont stop cutting the fence!
Orgnized Crime
StressMan79,
I just reread this thread and you mention "methheads" in passing. I see you are from Mukilteo. Out here on the peninsula it is pretty much the one thing that keeps crime escalating in a steady upward curve. Unfortuantely, local law enforcement tends to be in the dark as to who the organized gangs really are---usually they blame it on South of the Border drug lords--but closer to truth it is simply red, white and blue motorcycle gangs (remember the Hells Angels, Gypsy Jokers & etc.?)---they left the big screen and highways of the 1960's and 1970's --relocating to your next door national forest!
Many of us that are planning on living in the remote wilds, should keep a watch out for this type of criminal element. Labs can be set up anywhere and the fact that the profit margin is so high, the criminal element doesn't think a two hour drive on dirt roads is too high a price to pay to keep operations under the radar. They are always armed and dangerous. They also have their flock of users that buy directly from them--usually local youth who commit the majority of burglaries and petty crimes to support their habit.
adubar?
We live down in kitsap county. What stage are you at in the building? If you need help let us know. We would love to pitch in.
Jason
Kitsap?
Are you looking to build in Kitsap?
I'll extend the same offer to you. If you build before me, please don't hesitate to give me a hollar.
At present I'm living in an old house in PT. Something I've been fixing up. Don’t' think I'll ever be finished with that, though. I was told by many that old homes always need work, much like old wooden boats. We have our fair share of those here as well.
I've been keeping tabs on some view properties out past Forks to build. I'm hoping the wind and weather out that way will keep the majority of city dwellers out from prospecting for "vacation land"---- keeping the prices in my comfort zone.
I'm in the process of getting a hold of a local horse logger to see if he'd take me on as an apprentice this winter.
Unfortunately, I got caught up with work last winter and could never get the time away to do it.
-Andrew
Kitsap
We have property in Indianola. Next week we are having a double wide, that we found on craigs list delivered and will be moving in shortly. We had been trying to sell our house in Poulsbo, but could not get a reasonable price. So we found some renters. We did not want another rental, but for now it works better this way. The money we were going to get out of the house was going to construction. So it will be a little while until we start work now. My wife and I are obsesed with getting out of debt and building debt free, so that is what the hold up is. We will let you know when we start.
Sorry for the thread highjack, no PMs yet.
Mason County for Me
Just wanted to chime in on the jacked thread...
I plan to build on Dow Mountain, about 10 minutes outside of Hoodsport, which is somewhere between where you two will be building. I'd love to help out when you guys get started as well. I'm definitely anxious to get stacking, but even once I get property, I"ll need to get my current house fixed up and sold. Maybe by the time I'm ready to sell, the market will be ready to play nice again so I can actually sell my house. Here's hopin'.
I made an offer on a property a couple of weeks ago, but their counter-offer was still quite a bit more than want to pay. I'm just going to be patient for a while. I may go back and offer a bit more later, but I know there are several new properties about to be listed up there in the next week or so.
Louanne
Speaking of security.
I think the best advice so far has been to befriend your neighbors and watch out for each other.
Something to think about too is the remoteness of where you decide to build.
How will you deal with medical emergencies let alone unwanted visitors?
-Andrew
Camera system
My neighbor has a camera system, I think it is made by "Lorex". 4 cameras, each the size of a D cell battery and barely visible, even if you know they are there. He purchased the set up from Costco for about $1K, which isn't cheap. The nice thing about it though is that it "Archives" footage on your PC. I think it holds one week of footage per camera and the clarity is very good. In the last 30 days, he has captured video of a gnarly bicycle wipeout (which is sort of funny) and a car thief. The images/videos can be copied or emailed. We don't recognize the car thief, but maybe the car owner would? I think this could be a great tool to have, as long as they don't steal the PC.
Just my two cents for this "national night out". I agree that your best defense is having good neighbors, but with large acreage you may need some technical help.
Tom
Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxURLFn6jU&NR=1